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ѕќ-ЋќЎќ“ќ ќ“ Ќјѕ–ј«Ќ»я јѕ≈Ћ ≈ Ћ»ѕ—ј“ј Ќј јѕ≈Ћ

‘ренски€т институт в Ѕългари€ и издателство Д олибриУ представиха световни€ бестселър Д¬ъзмутете се!У от —тефан ’есел Д¬ъзмутете сеУ, есето, което взриви книжни€ пазар в десетки държави и предизвика нестихващ обществен от...



ƒ≈ѕ≈Ў ћќƒ - —“–ј—“Ќќ —Џ¬–≈ћ≈ЌЌќ ѕќ«ЌјЌ»≈

–умен —пасов, 14.06.2006 г.

ƒ€волчето-ангелче от последни€ албум 21 юни - ден€т, в който Depeche Mode свещенодействат за пръв път пред 40 хил€ди читави зрители на стадион "Ћокомотив". ƒоста столичани, още повече българи, а и дошли от съседни страни специално за този концерт, от години живе€т и се радват с експресивността на тези артистични търсачи на истини, ловци на сърца, неформални учители. “екстът по-долу е началото на книжовни€ и дизайнерски проект BGdepeche, цел€щ представ€нето на избрани техни текстове на красив български език. ј прецизното и раздвижено "изкуство на книгата" на художничката ≈лица Ѕаръмова с универсални€ си език би било подход€що и за билингва, и за издателски подвиг на всеки от световните езици. ¬ кра€ публикуваме превода си на Precious от последни€ им албум Playing The Angel. ќще петдесетина чакат правата...

Depeche Mode - едно от €влени€та в попул€рната култура през последните години. —трастни. »нтелигентни. ѕознавателни. јко н€кой иска да усети конкретни€ днешен човек, европееца с цели€ му аристократичен скепсис, а и човешкото планетарно общество – може да го направи чрез и през ƒепеш. ¬

техни€ св€т на естетска игра има съхранено рицарство, споделени и нереализирани (но винаги небанални) любови, изстрадани в болка истини покрай самотиите и отчуждението, провокаци€ към вс€ка инерци€, експеримент – както музикантски, така и в широк артистичен смисъл. —в€т на страдание и отча€ние, редувани с необуздан порив и в редки случаи (но пък и за това особено впечатл€ващи) светли уверености – като безхитростна люлчина €снота. Ќе само в оформлението на албумите им преобладава черно-б€лото на размисъла. “акъв е и студени€т постбароков колорит в текстовете им, където съдбовно звучащи истини се редуват с известната цветна баналност на обичайни за попарта изрази и образи. Ќо в спазена пропорци€, съхранена от автентични изстрадвани€, ненакърн€ваща несравними€ с нищо друго оригинален стил. Depeche Mode съхран€ват естествената си творческа умелост и чувството си за хумор пред предизвикателствата на електрониката, не се загубват в не€, зна€т какви послани€ имат да сподел€т и са убедителни в артикулирането им...  ато че вечно страстно влюбени и влюбващи, в състо€ние на дуенде, което е колкото емоционален, толкова и мисловен и критичен дар – уж за малцина, но всъщност така масово увличащ! ¬жив€ващи други човешки души, каращи ги да съпрежив€ват - независимо дали в самотата на собствената ста€ или в пространството на многохил€дни€ концерт.

ћного вечност - времето, “всичкото време на света” е сред основните им “герои” - и много класичност има в техни€ технологичен постмодернизъм. ѕреди стана дума, че рокът е шутът музикант на новите времена – и т€х имах предвид в гол€ма степен, защото те съхран€ват най-доброто от непосредствеността на рокендрола, като изб€гват умело рутината, извърв€ното н€кога от други например в посоката на съвършени€ китарен професионализъм или гласовата изразителност на рокбелкантото. ƒепеш от години присъстват с неповторим глас, повече минималистичен, отколкото раздвижен, с уникални вокални хармонии като че преподчертани от високоговорител, чрез който изговар€т истините си. ¬ключително нелицепри€тните, включително неравни като форма, но пък автентични – като несъвършени€ живот на всеки от милионите им фенове по света. » внушително изразен – чрез забавл€ваща страховитост в стръмни акордни последовани€, с непознати преди звукови нюанси, с категорични акцентирани€, които търс€т и намират най-дълбинната отзивчивост на слушател€… » чрез текстовете, разбира се, в които и многобройните повторени€ на уж банални думи започват да придобиват друг - вътрешен, възвис€ващ, божествен смисъл. Ќо да не забрав€ме, че в едно от най-запомн€щите се техни парчета бунтът е и срещу сами€ √оспод Ѕог, като към диаболично същество с болно чувство за хумор. Ѕунт на един постмодерен, потребителстващ, но не по-малко духовен …ов, който не желае да приеме съдбата си безропотно, без вълнуваща, сво€, неповторима следа сред космични€ шум. » за да се затвори кръгът, чертаещ обратите на художествеността, в последни€ им албум Ѕог (отново) се изписва с главна буква, преоткрит чрез мъките, които си причин€ваме с най- близките...
—тилни и странно-обикновени момчета от ќстрова

 онструктивизмът (от същи€ род като този на –обинзон  рузо), страстното живеене на вече познатото (един постмодерен ƒон ∆уан, с апела му да се поставим на негово м€сто), скъпенето и оцен€ването на духовността по най-високите измерителни скали, резултат от триумфа на протестантската (или англиканска?)етика, психологически обоснован и подплътен с личните успехи на пле€да артисти... индивидуалистично изстрадан евроскептицизъм, който по парадоксален начин те кара да заобичваш все повече дадени€ ти от съдбата европейски дом, ослан€нето на собствените автентични усили€, търсенето на нова, изненадваща, дори шокираща изразност – както звукова, така и словесна, и пластична... всичко това са Depeche Mode. ѕопул€рно, музикантско, визуално, литературно, духовно €вление.

≈дна от емблемите не само на западната съвременност. ѕодбуждащи и непостижими като любовта. ќтчайващи и вдъхнов€ващи като истински при€тел. Ќе за един ден.


«а визи€та

√рафичното решение на ¬Gdepeche, цели категорична многопластовост и насто€ва за многозначност на възприемането. ¬изи€та, ко€то предлагам, съдържа в себе си контрапунктното възпри€тие на нещата и лекотата, с ко€то текстовете на ƒепеш флиртуват с вечното и злободневното. ѕос€гам към ванитас тематиката с €сно съзнание за екзистенциалната аура на ƒепеш ћод в нашето технологично насто€ще. ѕредметната ванитас (Vanitas - от лат. – кухотата на външното) символика е отражение на еврейската и христи€нската представа за преходността на отсамното, земното, временното. ƒиректната препратка е към старозаветното „всичко е суета”. ¬ажен и често третиран мотив за изкуството и литературата на Ѕарока е единството на  расота и ”падък - две страни на едно насто€ще.  ато съзнание за присъствието на смъртта в недрата на вр€що пълнокръвни€, посто€нно обнов€в€щ се живот. “ази предметна символика от натюрмортите на холандската живопис, миришеща на току що духнати свещи, получава една постмодерна интерпретаци€ със синтезаторно звучене, преведена във видими форми.

≈Ћ»÷ј Ѕј–Џћќ¬ј


DEPECHE MODE - Passionate Contemporary Cognition

Depeche Mode – a phenomenon in pop culture for the recent years. Passionate. Intelligent. Cognitive. If one would like to become aware of the specific man of today, the European with his entire aristocratic scepsis, as well as of human planetary society, he could do it by and through Depeche.

Their world of aesthetic game has preserved chivalry, requited and unrealized (but always not-banal) loves, suffered in pain truths along with lonelinesses and alienation, challenges against any inertia, experiment – both musical and in the broader artistic meaning. A world of suffering and despair, alternated by unbridled impulses and, in rare cases (therefore markedly impressive), bright confidences – as non-cunning cradle’s transparency. The white- blue of meditation prevails not just in the design of their albums. Such is the post-baroque colour of their texts, where the fatefully sounding truths are followed by familiar colourful triviality of common for pop art expressions and images. But in observed proportion, unhurting the incomparable with nothing else authentic style. Depeche preserve their natural creative skill in the face of electronics, not losing them in it, aware of the messages they have to share and convincing in their articulation… As if eternally passionately infatuated and infatuating in the spirit of duende that is both an emotional and a mental and critical gift – as if for few, but in practice so large- scalely absorbing! Vivifying other human souls, making them sympathize – no matter either in the solitude of their own rooms or in the space of the many thousands concert. There is plenty of eternity – time, “all the time in the world”, is among their main “characters” – and plenty of classicity in their technological postmodernism. Some time ago it was mentioned that rock is the musical clown of modern times – and them I had largely in mind, since they preserve the best of the spontaneity of rock and roll, efficiently avoiding routine, the once achieved by others, for instance, in the direction of perfect guitar professionalism or vocal expressiveness of rock bel canto. Depeche find their unique voice, as if underlined by a loudspeaker, by synthesizing technologies, to pronounce their truths. Including such that are not partial, such that are roughly shaped, but on the other hand authentic – like the imperfect life of their millions of fans all over the world. But so impressively expressed – by entertaining fearfulness in steep accord successions with unheard before sound hues, with harsh accents, reaching thorough listeners’ responsiveness… And by the texts, of course, where even the multiple reiterations of would-be banal words start to acquire another – internal, sublime, heavenly meaning. Yet we should not forget that in one of their most impressive pieces scepticism and revolt are against the very God himself, rendered as a diabolical creature with sick sense of humour. The revolt of a post-modern, consumeristic, but not less noetic Job, who does not agree to accept his fate uncomplainingly, without an exciting, his own, unique trace amongst the cosmic noise. And to close the circle, describing the twists of their artistry, in their last album God is (again) in caps.

Constructivism (of the same sort as that of Robinson Crusoe), the passionate living of the already familiar (a post-modern Don Juan, appealing us to put ourselves in his shoes), cherishing and valuing spirituality under highest measuring scales, resulting from the triumph of Protestant ethics, psychologically grounded and wadded with the personal successes of Pleiad of artists… individually endured euroskepticism, paradoxically making you love stronger and stronger the home, that Fate has given you, the relying on your own authentic efforts, the search of new, surprising and even shocking expressiveness – sound, verbal, picturesque… Depeche Modе are all that. A popular, musical, visual, literary, noetic phenomenon.

One of the emblems not just of West European contemporaneity alone. Inciting and unapproachable as Love. Discouraging and inspiring as a true friend. Not just for a day.

ROUMEN SPASSOV


The Vision

The graphic design of BG Depeche aims at explicit multi-layerness. The vision I offer comprises the contrapuntal perception of things and the ease that the texts of Depeche flirt with the eternal and the topical. I trench upon the Vanitas subject-matter with a clear awareness of the existential aura of the group in our technological present. The objective Vanitas (Latin – the hollowness of the external) symbolic language is a reflection of the Christian and Jewish concept of the transience of the near side, the earthly, the transitory. The direct reference to the Old Testament’s “All is vanity”. An important and often regarded motif in Baroque art and literature is the entity of Beauty and Decline - two sides of a cashed down present. As awareness of the presence of death in the womb of the boilingly vigorous, perpetually reviving life. This objective symbolic language of the still life in Dutch painting, smelling of just puffed out candles, obtains a postmodern interpretation by synthesizer’s sounding, transferred into shapes.

ELITZA BARAMOVA


—къпоценни

—къпоценни неща, раними Ќеобходима им е специална закрила Ѕоже мой, какво направихме с “еб ¬инаги се опитваме да споделим Ќай-нежните си грижи ¬иж сега какво “и причинихме Ќещата се увреждат Ќещата се разпадат ћислех, че ще успеем Ќо думите неказани Ѕеззащитни ни оставиха — толкова малко за даване јнгели със сребърни криле Ќе бива да познават страданието ћечта€ да б€х поел болката вместо теб јко √оспод има майсторски план  ойто само “ой разбира Ќад€вам се да го гледа през твоите очи Ќещата се увреждат Ќещата се разпадат ћислех, че ще успеем Ќо думите неказани Ѕеззащитни ни оставиха — толкова малко за даване «аричам те, научи да се довер€ваш »май в€ра за нас двамата » съхрани м€сто в сърцата си за теб и мен Ќещата се увреждат Ќещата се разпадат ћислех, че ще успеем Ќо думите неказани Ѕеззащитни ни оставиха — толкова малко за даване  

¬ тво€та ста€

¬ тво€та ста€  ъдето времето е застинало »ли се раздвижва по твой каприз ўе пуснеш ли скоро утринта да влезе »ли ще ме оставиш паднал и лъжлив “во€т предпочитан мрак “во€та предпочитана полус€нка “воето предпочитано съзнание “во€т предпочитан пленник ¬ тво€та ста€  ъдето духове изчезват —амо ти живееш тук ўе ме въведеш ли в покоите си »ли ще ме зарежеш - смачкан и лъжлив “во€та предпочитана невинност “во€та предпочитана награда “во€та предпочитана усмивка “во€т предпочитан пленник — трепет чакам думите ти ∆иве€ чрез дъха ти ”сещам с тво€та кожа ¬инаги ли ще съм тук ¬ тво€та ста€ “воите искр€щи очи –азпалват истинни пламъци ƒали ще ги загасиш скоро »ли винаги ще съм тук “во€та предпочитана страст “во€та предпочитана игра “воето предпочитано огледало “во€т предпочитан пленник — трепет чакам думите ти ∆иве€ чрез дъха ти „увствам с тво€та кожа ¬инаги ли ще съм тук

”сещам те

”сещам те —лънцето ти си€е ”сещам те ƒори през разума си “и ме грабна “и ме водиш ¬ по-съвършен св€т “и ме превеждаш ѕрез ¬авилон “ова е утринта на любовта ни “ова е зората на нашата любов ”сещам те —ърцето ти пее ”сещам те –адостта е тук  ъдето ра€т чака — всичките си златни врати » обратно “и ме превеждаш ѕрез забравата “ова е утринта на любовта ни “ова е зората на нашата любов ”сещам те —къпоценната ти същност » аз съм ц€лостен ”сещам те “воето изгр€ващо слънце ћо€т по-вдъхновен св€т ”сещам те ¬с€ко движение твое ”сещам те ¬с€ко дихание твое  ъдето ангели пе€т » разгръщат крилете си ћо€та любов расте “и ме взимаш дома Ќа трона на победата —коро, много скоро “ова е утринта на любовта ни “ова е зората на нашата любов

Ќаслаждавай се на тишината

ƒуми като нашествие Ќарушават безмълвието Ќахлуват злосторно ¬ мо€ малък св€т ћъчително за мен ѕробождащо през мен Ќе разбираш ли ќ, малко мое момиче ¬сичко, което винаги съм искал ¬сичко, което винаги ми е тр€бвало ≈ тук, в ръцете ми ƒумите са крайно излишни ћогат само да вред€т  летви изговорени «а да бъдат нарушени „увства прекомерни ƒуми тривиални Ќасладите остават Ѕолката също ƒумите са безмислени » за забрав€не ¬сичко, което винаги съм искал ¬сичко, което винаги ми е тр€бвало ≈ тук, в ръцете ми ƒумите са крайно излишни ћогат само да вред€т (c)BGdepeche, All Right Reserved, 

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«а –адо, —лави и ¬ацлав - пращам ви € на файл. Ѕих го направил и за всеки друг, който пожелае, с единствената молба да не се продава и пре-подар€ва. ѕазете правата на ћартин, ƒейв..., а и на скромни€ преводач :)
публикувано от: Rou на: 18.07.2006 09:52:02 часа

¬ижте, хора, излишно е да се "фрустрирате"!ўом тази сутрин един университетски професор смогна два пъти едно след друго да об€ви в национални€ ефир, че кандидат-студентите ще пишат есе по цитат от творчеството на ƒимитър ƒебел€нов, останалото направо е мълчание! ѕък и какво толкоз се е случило: който никога не опитва, никога не знае дали може... ќт друга страна, свободата на словото е гарантирана от  онституци€та... —вободата на печата - също... » други свободи... „е и права...  акто казва ѕипи (ƒългото „орапче):"∆ивеем в свободна страна и всеки може да прави, каквото си иска!" Ќе страдайте излишно: който иска да си купи книгата, ще си € купи; който не иска - н€ма да си € купи.  акто пишело в един каубойски бар в ƒиви€ «апад, "ћол€, не стрел€йте по пианиста!" Ѕъдете живи и здрави!
публикувано от: morena на: 14.07.2006 10:28:40 часа

Ќ€мам вкус към детайли и препирни, но, когато за една книга се чуват полюсни мнени€, ми се иска да € познавам и да си из€сн€ моето собствено... ќткъде да намер€ книгата?
публикувано от: Rado на: 14.07.2006 09:44:44 часа

”важаеми ≈д, €вно ви е познат превода ми (веро€тно сте от Ўекспировото общество, ръкописът ми е споделен там) на I Feel You, който не съм публикувал тук, но заради бележката ви ще го направ€. Ѕих добавил и Enjoy the Silence като един стилен край... Ѕих искал преди това да из€сн€, че и аз съм се възмущавал от книгите "с лоши преводи", с каквито са пълни най-вече философските отдели на библиотеките. Ќо според мен преводите са лоши не толкова когато не са съвършени, а когато преводачът отсъства като личност. «ащото, убеден съм, превеждайки създаваме ново, свое произведение. ј не можеш да си книжовен създател, без да си готов да рискуваш. ¬ то€ смисъл мнени€та на отрицателите ми не са неочаквани за мен. ƒори им благодар€, защото с неадекватността си доказват че съм на прав път. ≈, скъпи съдии и съдебни заседатели, както се казва в Walking in My Shoes, дерзайте още. Ќо не очаквайте извинени€ за глуповати обвинени€ (сещате ли се за Condemnation). Ќаучете се да приемате опровергаването на очаквани€та си. «ащото опроверганото очакване (това се учи по културологи€ в родни€ университет —офийски ) е белег на естетическото. ¬прочем и ƒепеш винаги чудесно са го доказвали.  олкото до културологични€ ми текст, прекалено ме радва оценката от јнгли€, ко€то получих наскоро (при това те съд€т от превода на текста ми на английски, който е по-неизразителен от български€ оригинал, разбира се), за да ме засегне н€каква дребна злобица. 
публикувано от: –умен —пасов на: 13.07.2006 11:35:44 часа

ѕреди н€колко дни изтрих едно глуповато мнение, веро€тно от същи€ "образован" човечец, което твърдеше, че та€ университетска дискуси€ се водела от даскали до седми клас. —ега ви остав€м, K&D. Enjoy your triviality!
публикувано от: Admimistrator на: 13.07.2006 09:13:09 часа

ќчевидно  ат€ и ƒел€н са един и същ хермафродит, който, на всичкото отгоре, не разбира защо толкова се е разговорил... јми сигурно има защо, макар и да не се досеща. ’айде шестокласнико на преклонна възраст, преведи и ти нещо! Dream On, Dream On!
публикувано от: √рафолог на: 13.07.2006 08:59:09 часа

”важаеми драскачи на глупости, гражданската ми съвест ме задължава да ви кажа, че н€ма по-жалко нещо от бездарни€ "арт" критик и преводач на стойностни художествени произведени€. —амо като ви слушам комсомолски€ тон си припомн€м колко агресивна и самомнителна е посредствеността.
публикувано от: deljan на: 12.07.2006 20:53:47 часа

“акъв превод може да направи без никакви проблеми всеки седмокласник, който учи английски (с помащта на речник ха-ха. Ќе виждам защо тр€бва да се говори толкова много за н€каква най-обикновена глупост.
публикувано от: katia на: 12.07.2006 20:41:50 часа

Ќищо друго да не беше направил уважаеми€т преводач и съставител, фактът, че трансформира "precious soul" като "прецизна същност", а не в буквалното "скъпоценна душа", подсказва тънък езиков и семантичен усет. The rest is silence.
публикувано от: Edward de Vere на: 12.07.2006 20:32:38 часа

ѕоместени€т английски текст на "—къпоценни" сам по себе си изобщо не е върхът. јко забел€звате в припева думата left (макар и с разн инюанси) се повтар€ в три последователни стиха, нещо което умело е избегнато в български€ превод. »зобщо - при ц€лото ми уважение към попул€рността и конкретно към този безспорен хит (най-вече визуален), ƒепеш ћод имат и доста нескопосани текстове, над€вам се подборът за българското издание да е достатъчно прецизен.
публикувано от: Estet на: 11.07.2006 17:49:33 часа

» без да знаеш английски, става €сно, че текстовете са поетични, въздействащи, смислени, а не пошъл естраден брътвеж. ѕоздравлени€ за стати€та, преводите и книжката!
публикувано от: —лави на: 11.07.2006 17:08:03 часа

Ќе е нужно да знаеш английски, за да разбереш, че текстовете са поетични, въздействащи и смислени, а не естрадни пошлотии. ѕоздрав за материала, преводите и книжката!
публикувано от: —лави на: 11.07.2006 16:27:54 часа

Ќе е нужно да знаеш английски, за да разумееш, че тези текстове са поетични, въздействащи, смислени, а не празни естрадни дрънканици. ѕоздравлени€ за материала, преводите и книжката!
публикувано от: —лави на: 11.07.2006 16:23:13 часа

Maria Misli s Malkija Major Mihov, Mursuvajki Maloumno... :)
публикувано от: MMM на: 11.07.2006 13:15:18 часа

’удожественото не е едно, има разни представи за художествено. ј декадентите, за да събуд€т буржоазните заспалости, с т€хната застинала представа за художествено, издигат естетиката на грозното. ¬ие, ћари€, сте отвратителна ограничена нихилистка, щом см€тате, че само текстът на английски е художествен, а подцен€вате което и да било негово съответствие на родни€ ни език, размърдващо въображението на всеки, който мисли на български. ўе ви кажа, че по ограничеността на реакци€та ви си личи, че и по английски н€мате достатъчно познани€. “огава се запитва човек - на какъв език мислите изобщо?
публикувано от: Vanja на: 11.07.2006 13:12:04 часа

’удожествен е оригинални€т текст, ћарио. “е€ словоблудства са безкрайно далеч от художественото. —капано е, че хора, които слушат ƒепеш могат да приемат такова осакат€ване на поези€та. ўо, впрочем, не земете да научите н€ко€ и друга дума от то€ английски.
публикувано от: maria на: 11.07.2006 12:25:00 часа

јми срамувай се, ћари€. Ќай-вече от неспособността си да възприемаш художествен текст. „уд€ се, на какво отгоре това вжив€ване като съди€...
публикувано от: Mario на: 11.07.2006 09:03:01 часа

ќколо година и половина ƒепеш са обикал€ли по разни студи€, продуценти и други професионалисти, които са им се присмивали - как така без музикално образование и с н€какви странни текстове и причудливи песни са тръгнали да стават попул€рни. ’убаво, че самоуважението им е наддел€ло.  ъде да намерим книгата BGdepeche?
публикувано от: ¬ацлав на: 11.07.2006 08:57:38 часа

ѕреводът е безнадежден. Ќе ви ли срам да пишете такива глупости. ћен ме е срам да ги чета. Ќ€ма ли с какво да се занимавате, ами сте седнали да пишете неща, от които €вно нищо не разбирате. ѕоетични€т превод не е за вс€ка уста лъжица, мол€ про€вете поне малко самоуважение и не се излагайте така, щом не уважавате твореца, който е създал истинска поези€, а вие € превръщате в олигофренски брътвежи.
публикувано от: maria на: 10.07.2006 11:10:27 часа

ћол€ ви,не спирайте и не се отчайвайте от тъпите и безпочвени критики!Ќека по-гол€ма част от хората разбират, благодарение на преводите ви,какво се пее в любимите им песни.”—ѕ≈’!!!
публикувано от: Marieta на: 09.07.2006 14:12:49 часа

"Ќе може да се преведе на български" звучи ужасно безнадеждно. ¬се едно детето, което тр€бва да проходи да рече "не мога..." или първокласника да каже: не искам нашата азбука, защото ще взема да разбирам, предпочитам маги€та на неразбираемото. ”жасен комплекс! Ћекувайте душата си.
публикувано от: ƒеси на: 26.06.2006 08:25:01 часа

¬секи превод е интерпретаци€, сиреч ново произведение. ѕред нас е един преводач с изключителна прецизност в търсенето на точната дума на български и с една овлад€на емоционалност, ко€то не може да не подразни вжив€ните в маги€та ƒепеш. јма хайде по-малко глуповато вжив€ване, а?  олкото до студентите ни - те са различни. »ма и по-добри, и по-посредствени, и мамини синчета...  ойто иска, обаче, може д анаучи и за ƒалчев, и за „авдар ћутафов, и за съответстващите им сродни автори в јнгли€ и —јў...
публикувано от: ќт  атедрата на: 25.06.2006 00:04:15 часа

Vijte , prevodat naistina ne beshe dobar , no spored men tova ne e tolkova ot lipsa na umenie na prevodacha , ili neumenieto mu da izbere pravilnite dumi na balgarski ezik . Prosto chovekat se e opital da presazdade pesenta tochno i bukvalno . Spored men ne e vazmojno da se prevede bukvalno pesenta na balgarski ezik , no avtorat nqma pravo da promenq i perifrazira teksta . Kakto i da e , pone ocenete usiliqta na choveka , samo pliute , bez da ste napravili nishto .
публикувано от: Billy на: 24.06.2006 22:58:27 часа

ѕреводЏ“, научи български, —вен, това ще ти помогне да мислиш по-точно и свободно. » да направиш нещо по-добро, ако можеш. —амо че от много фенство май не ти остава време да се вгледаш в себе си - първото условие за оригинално творчество...
публикувано от: Ѕорислав на: 24.06.2006 18:56:49 часа

Ѕлагодар€ все пак за отговора от администратора. Ќе знаех досега, че съм престъпник.» мисл€, че тр€бва да се дава възнможност за самокорекци€ на мнени€та, привсе че на страницата това е невъзможно - и това че н€мам кирилица на компютъра е, защото н€мам право да инсталирам такава, не се намирам в Ѕългари€ в момента. «атова спирам да се из€вавам 'престъпно' на така известни€ сайт и спирам да преповтар€м мнението на 90% от хората, написали нещо в този форум.
публикувано от: Vesso на: 24.06.2006 15:36:40 часа

ѕревода е патологичен!!!∆алко е че около нас има толкова подобни "ерудирани ентусиасти" търсещи поле за "интелектуална" из€ва, от каквато на лично на мен, както и на доста фенове им става меко казано неудобно (да не използвам по-точната дума). —ъжал€вам че по н€к'ва причина попаднах тук. „удно ми е толкова ли не могат да се намер€т по подход€щи и близки до компетенци€та ви теми за из€ва за да не ставате смешни както в случа€ или иде€та беше че вниманието около наистина най-феноменалното събитие ще е гол€мо и н€кой ще блесне с таланта си. Ќаистина, пълно е с абсурди навс€къде, но съвета ми към модератора на този "free-speech web spot" е да даде, ID offline asap, в противен случай подозирам ще се намер€т други, които да свършат тази ра'ота:)!ќще веднъж: много зле!! ѕоинтересувайте се малко повече от Depeche Mode-history, message&conception!!¬сички права запазаени?’аха, ƒобре ли сте?  ой е луд да си приписва този "шедьовър"...да не би да ст€гате багажа за Holywood вече...Reach out,touch faith!!
публикувано от: Sven на: 24.06.2006 14:24:18 часа

«дравейте ≈лица, Ѕлагодар€ ви за културната бележка, ко€то е истинска радост за автора, особено в съседство с напъните на безнадеждната простащина... ¬се пак бих желал да по€сн€, че в постмодрнизма - времето, което, искаме или не, обитаваме - и особено във футурустичните и фантастични жанрове, любими за попарта, предметите често са одухотворени, а хората и душите им - опредметени. ¬ нашата литература това води началото си още от 20-те години и кръга "—трелец" с „авдар ћутафов, јтанас ƒалчев и ƒимитър ѕантелеев...¬печатлението ми е, че в английска филологи€ ги претупват... ƒо скоро, –умен
публикувано от: –умен —паосв на: 24.06.2006 13:21:13 часа

≈стествено е простотиите да бъдат санкционирани. Ќе очаквайте да поощр€ваме и невн€тностите на латиница. Ѕих могъл да ви лиша от възможността да се из€в€вате престъпно в то€ сайт, а и в мрежата изобщо, но съм любопитен докъде ще стигнете.
публикувано от: јдминистратор на: 24.06.2006 12:48:52 часа

ƒоколкото разбрах, целта на тази инициатива е да се преведат текстове на Depeche Mode на красив български. «а съжаление обаче не виждам нито красив български, нито приемлив превод. «а да избегнете подобни неловки ситуации в бъдеще, се вслушайте в съвета на djsupermax и, преди да превеждате, се консултирайте с хора, информирани за групата и музиката и. «ащото очевидно вие не сте такива.
публикувано от: Momchil на: 24.06.2006 12:39:37 часа

ѕействам и ориигнала, освен това напомн€м за недосетливи, че Ѕог е дете, че Ѕог може да бъде и “€ или “ой, и Ћюбовта. Ќо стига съм даскалувал, най-веро€тно е безнадеждно...
публикувано от: Rou на: 23.06.2006 23:56:33 часа

Ќе тр€бва много проницаетлност, за да се вид€т кои са неграмотните в та€ разправи€ (нищо чудно да е един-единствен). ѕо правописните грешки ще го познаете!
публикувано от: √рафолог на: 23.06.2006 23:47:25 часа

Ќедраги ћариане, понеже преводът е на български и е на кирилица българската филологи€ никак не е излишна.
публикувано от: Ѕългарска на: 23.06.2006 23:35:29 часа

Pozdravleniq za ideqta!Uspeh!:)
публикувано от: Teodora на: 23.06.2006 12:48:44 часа

Bravo hora! Produljhavajte da ne spite!
публикувано от: Breve Regnum на: 23.06.2006 12:37:17 часа

» честит –ќ∆ƒ≈Ќ ƒ≈Ќ!:)
публикувано от: svelt на: 23.06.2006 11:48:04 часа

BLAGODARIA VI za tozi material !
публикувано от: svelt на: 23.06.2006 11:40:22 часа

Smqtam, che predi da se prevejda text, e dobre prevodacha da se zapoznae s osnovnata tema na texta. V sluchaq stava vupros za decata na Martin Gore i stradanieto, koeto sa im prichinili toi i maika im po vreme na razvoda si. Ne stava duma za Bog i kakvo sa prichinili na nego. Tova moje da se prochete v mnogo intervuta, koito Martin dade sled izlizaneto na Playing The Angel, nqkoi ot koito publikuvani i v bulgarskata presa. Taka che tozi prevod spored men e mnogo dalech ot sushtnostta.
публикувано от: Momchil на: 22.06.2006 21:46:27 часа

 ато човек, вече печелил литературни конкурси за поези€, с нееднократно издавани стихове,мога да кажа,че в превода е изб€гала естетиката на глаголите-тънък нюанс е променил основното внушение.“рошат се предмети, не и чувства. ¬ наши€ език не използваме този глагол за не-предметните пон€ти€...јз не претендирам за умени€ за превод,но си мисл€,че човек тр€бва да е уловил вс€ка тънка душевна нотка на произведението, което иска да превежда.
публикувано от: elica на: 22.06.2006 18:27:23 часа

”порството, с което читател ДNICEФ пре-пре-повтар€, и пре-праща мнението си буквално през час (едно достойно за посредствеността мнение), говори за негов (или неин) психологически проблем. ≈то защо е об€снима трудността, с ко€то може да прочете и осмисли този възможно най-добър превод.
публикувано от: Mariana на: 21.06.2006 23:28:38 часа

» на мен не ми харесва този превод изобщо.≈два ли може да се преведе на български...
публикувано от: Nice на: 21.06.2006 13:54:28 часа

slu6am depeche otkakto se pomnq.super e 4e naj-nakrq dojdoha v Bulagriq.Moje o6te da se iska ot prevoda4a
публикувано от: buhta на: 21.06.2006 12:44:19 часа

√осподин "преводач", от кога хора с българска филологиа превеждат от английски. “ова е най-тъпи€ превод който съм виждал. ћол€ ви да не издавате книга с такива глупави преводи и да срамите творчеството на ƒепеш !!!!
публикувано от: Marian на: 21.06.2006 11:14:24 часа

ћай след ≈лвис и јнди ”орхъл попул€рното изкуство просто не търпи други, освен претенциозни автори. ¬ижте и нашенеца ’ристо явашев! ј ‘реди ћеркюри е неописуем със сво€ √рейт притендър - нещо като илюстраци€... ѕишещите за попарт неизбежно са и ще бъдат претенциозни.
публикувано от: √рейт на: 20.06.2006 15:37:29 часа

Ћюбезна ƒара, благодар€ че си направихте труда да пишете тук. јко го б€х превел "божествен промисъл" или "провидение" щеше да стане по-тавтологично и абстрактно. ¬ то€ смисъл на български звучи по-многозначно, защото ни е богат и нюансиран езикът. ј нещата, също както и хората, се развал€т и се трошат, и са раними... ѕожелавам ви да сте малко по-претенциозен и внимателен критик.
публикувано от: ѕреводач на: 20.06.2006 15:12:46 часа

ƒругарката ƒара да го напише за работническата класа. Ќепретенциозно. Ѕез натруфеност, и в рамките на петилетни€ план.
публикувано от: „ервени€т потник на: 20.06.2006 14:44:38 часа

ƒара, посмей се с н€кой мъж, след това ще можеш да оцен€ваш по-безпристрастно и майсторски...
публикувано от: ≈-ƒар на: 20.06.2006 14:41:02 часа

"Ќещата се развал€т, нещата се трошат...".ќх, откога не съм се см€ла така!
публикувано от: Dara на: 20.06.2006 13:32:36 часа

“върде претенциозно...Ќаправо абсурдно претенциозно, особено след като е написано за Depeche mode. ƒа не говорим колко е смехотоворен преводът на текста:) "ћайсторски план", а?—м€х!
публикувано от: Dara на: 20.06.2006 13:31:09 часа

Pozdravlenia!!! Hubavo e da nauchish, che neshto hubavo se publikuvano i se e sluchilo v Bulgaria, oshte poveche, kogato zhiveesh daleche.
публикувано от: Zornitsa на: 19.06.2006 13:27:12 часа

Ќамерихте ли си издателство?
публикувано от: Ћюбо на: 19.06.2006 09:00:14 часа

»стински са. ѕоздравлени€ за избора!
публикувано от: ot izdatelsvo KARINA M на: 16.06.2006 17:05:50 часа

Ќай-после нещо по-различно от тъпите брътвежи за наркотици и чернотии... “ова са истински естети! ∆алко че доста различни от т€х хора злоупотреб€ват с билетите за този концерт...
публикувано от: Ivan на: 16.06.2006 15:02:24 часа

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